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		<title>&#8220;stairs&#8221; part 3: the big finish</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finishing the stairs starts with skirt boards. These are the trim pieces that run down each side of the stairs and to which the treads and risers abut. There are books with lots of fancy calculations for determining dimensions, which I used, but when I swung the ungainly pieces into place, they just didn&#8217;t fit [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finishing the stairs starts with skirt boards. These are the trim pieces that run down each side of the stairs and to which the treads and risers abut. There are books with lots of fancy calculations for determining dimensions, which I used, but when I swung the ungainly pieces into place, they just didn&#8217;t fit exactly right. So I went back and forth to the saw a few times to trim them to fit. I then tacked them through the drywall into the studs, which I had marked earlier.</p>
<div id="attachment_817" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-817" title="IMG_0001" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_31_skirt_board.jpg" alt="skirt board" width="400" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Skirt boards running down each side of the rough stairwell.</p></div>
<p>Ok, just so you don&#8217;t think I was Johnny-on-the-spot finishing things up, several months would pass before I got around to the treads and risers. The thing about finish work is, it&#8217;s what you see, so you have to think about how you want it to look. And that can take some time.</p>
<p>I knew I wanted oak treads. In fact, I had purchased the treads a few years back at Home Depot, when I saw them in an end-cap display, not realizing they always carry them in the aisles. They&#8217;re 1&#8243; thick (well, really they&#8217;re 31/32&#8243;- and that makes a difference when you have eleven steps, because if you don&#8217;t account for it, you&#8217;ll be off almost 1/2&#8243; from top to bottom), and they&#8217;re solid oak, but there&#8217;s a core of glued up oak pieces veneered with a 1/8&#8243; oak finish. The bullnose is already cut. So I&#8217;ve had them forever, and they&#8217;ve always been in the way as I worked on other stuff, and I&#8217;ve probably moved them around the job site fifteen times, including moving them upstairs and back down again. They&#8217;re heavy.</p>
<p>But the risers were a different matter. White painted risers with oak treads is common, and I don&#8217;t dislike the look, so I considered it for a time. It would have been a little cheaper, because you can use a less expensive wood like poplar. At one point, I committed to that idea once and bought the poplar, but then had second thoughts and returned it. The white riser has a colonial-ish look to it, which I didn&#8217;t want. And, I guess I&#8217;m a sucker for oak.</p>
<p>So I went back to Home Depot and picked through the stacks of nice 1&#8243;x10&#8243;x12&#8242; (really 3/4&#8243; x 9 1/2&#8243; x 12&#8242; &#8211; remember dimensional lumber?) oak boards and found a few that were knot-free and took them home and ripped them down on the table saw.</p>
<p><em><strong>WARNING: The following paragraph contains content that may haunt your dreams. Read at your own peril. And, of course, parental discretion is strongly advised.</strong></em></p>
<p>One of challenges with building stairs in place (as opposed to building the unit and then setting it into place, which gives you a nice fit but wasn&#8217;t an option due to my narrow and access-restricted stairwell), something that caused great anxiety in the lead-up to tread &amp; riser work, is&#8230; oh, I just can&#8217;t bring myself to say it yet. Let&#8217;s say, for instance, that you cut a tread and it fits snugly into place. Then you cut a riser, but it&#8217;s a tad wide. Why would it be wide? Well, the skirt board isn&#8217;t a perfect surface, and it&#8217;s attached to drywall and framing that carry their own irregularities. So things are always a little out of whack. You tap the riser into place. And it fits snugly. Maybe <em>too</em> snugly. Then you look at the tread you just put in and there are&#8230; <em>gaps</em> on the sides. Yes, I said it. <em>Gaps. Egde gaps</em>. Because the riser you just tapped into place shoved the skirt board out, ever so slightly. And you think, maybe I can just trim the riser a bit. But you know you only need to trim a <em>little</em> bit. And you wonder whether you&#8217;re good enough with the table saw to take<em> just</em> enough. Or should you try a block plane? Or maybe a rasp? And if you take off too much, then the tread will be fine, but the riser will have edge gaps, and you&#8217;ll have to throw it out and start over. And then you look down the long stairwell and realize the nightmare will continue, step after step, down into oblivion.</p>
<p>So what do you do? You read some books. And you come up with some tricks. They make special adjustable template tools that allow you to easily gauge the shape of each piece. But a little trick I learned, with two long pieces of paper and some tape, did the same thing:</p>
<div id="attachment_818" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-818" title="IMG_0025" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_32_paper_template.jpg" alt="using template" width="400" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Using template, but still getting Edge Gaps.</p></div>
<p>Just slide the left piece of paper against the left skirt board, and the right piece of paper against the right skirt board, then tape them together. Carry that to the lumber, trace your shape, and cut.</p>
<p>So did it work? Well, not really. The books, which are aimed at <em>real</em> finish carpenters, who have the skill, patience, and tools, tell you to use a block plane or rasp to get the right fit. I don&#8217;t have any of those, so I just got it as close as I could. Look again at the picture above. The riser just above the paper template. And the one above that. See the right-hand edge? You guessed it. <em>Edge gaps</em>.</p>
<p>I cut all the risers first. It allowed me to assembly-line things, and I could make sure I got them perfectly even with the tops of the rough treads. That way, where the treads meet the risers would be a tight fit.</p>
<div id="attachment_819" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-819" title="IMG_0018" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_33_risers_first.jpg" alt="risers first" width="400" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Risers first.</p></div>
<p>The more I moved downwards, the less I worried about edge gaps. I decided that they were minor, and I could probably fill with something, maybe some white caulk, which would look fine since I planned to paint the skirt boards white. Caulk fixes everything.</p>
<div id="attachment_820" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-820" title="IMG_0029" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_34_almost_down.jpg" alt="almost down" width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Almost down.</p></div>
<p>At this points, it&#8217;s just a dry fit. I wanted to make sure I had everything fitting before I started connecting things together.</p>
<div id="attachment_821" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-821" title="IMG_0050" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_35_fitting_done.jpg" alt="fitting done" width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The dry fit - except the top threshold.</p></div>
<p>If you look closely in the above picture, you&#8217;ll notice that the top threshold is not in place. It was a tricky piece, because it had to dovetail around and under the doorjamb, and also dovetail with the first floor&#8217;s existing 55 year old oak flooring. If the following picture, you can see the edge of the first floor, and you can make out the tongue that runs along the edge &#8211; that would need to fit into a groove in the threshold piece.</p>
<div id="attachment_829" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-829" title="IMG_0001" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_43_old_floor_joint.jpg" alt="edge of old upstairs floor" width="400" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">edge of old upstairs floor</p></div>
<p>I took a spare tread and cut it down to the proper width, then ripped a groove in the edge on the table saw. I then cut the left and right ends to the correct pattern to fit with the doorjambs. I also had to cut a little away on one edge of the underside, since the rough wood beneath wasn&#8217;t flat. The result is pictured below:</p>
<div id="attachment_830" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-830" title="IMG_0214.JPG" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_44_joint.jpg" alt="grafted in" width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Old meets new.</p></div>
<p>Attaching the treads and risers was easy, with no hardware showing, because I had access in a small storage area underneath the stairway. For each piece, I used a generous bead of construction adhesive to stick it in place (and prevent squeaks in the future), stacked a few boxes of ceramic floor tiles on it to hold it, went underneath and drilled holes, then screwed it in place. Six screws each. The bottom tread and riser were tricky because of lack of space, but a right-angle attachment for my drill aided in getting the screws in. The top riser had no access from below, so used a few finish nails to attach it. And, the top threshold also had no access from below, so I drilled and countersunk (sank?) five holes through it to affix it, then used oak plugs to hide the holes. In the picture above, you can see one of the plugs slightly to the right of the picture&#8217;s center.</p>
<p>I trimmed the skirt boards with a bit of cove molding cut from the top of a piece of the baseboard that I was using throughout the basement. The result is a cap on the skirt board that matches the rest of the baseboard.</p>
<div id="attachment_823" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-823" title="IMG_0210.JPG" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_37_bottom_corner.jpg" alt="trim detail" width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The cap detail on the skirt board matches the cap detail on the baseboard</p></div>
<p>I also ran a 1&#8243;x4&#8243; trim piece around the perimeter of the stairwell, seen in the following photo, to hide an overlapping piece of drywall on the right side. The edges of the new drywall in the basement and the old wallboard in the upper part of the stairwell butted perfectly on the left and far sides. But the way framing worked out, with the immovable steel I-beam running down the center of the house, the edge of the new drywall on the right didn&#8217;t butt evenly with the edge of the upper wallboard &#8211; it stood out about 1/2&#8243;. So I capped it with the 1&#8243;x4&#8243;, (actually 3/4&#8243;x3 1/2&#8243;) and continued the 1&#8243;x4&#8243; around the stairwell as a deign element.</p>
<div id="attachment_826" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-826" title="IMG_0221.JPG" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_40_looking_down_full.jpg" alt="looking down" width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Whatever you do, don&#39;t look down.</p></div>
<p>In finished the stairs with three coats of semi-gloss polyurethane, letting it dry for a day then lightly sanding between each coat. All the trim is white semi-gloss acrylic, and the drywall below the 1&#8243;x4&#8243; perimeter piece is the light gray that the rest of the walls in the basement are painted.</p>
<div id="attachment_822" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-822" title="IMG_0207" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_36_finished_1.jpg" alt="finished" width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Three coats of polyurethane.</p></div>
<div id="attachment_824" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-824" title="IMG_0219.JPG" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_38_looking_down.jpg" alt="top board joinery" width="400" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The view from above.</p></div>
<div id="attachment_825" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-825" title="IMG_0228.JPG" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/stairs_39_looking_up.jpg" alt="looking up" width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The &quot;Monument&quot; view.</p></div>
<p>In order to pass final inspection, I&#8217;ll have to add a handrail. It&#8217;s a shame. It looks so nice the way it is.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;stairs&#8221; part 2: let&#8217;s try that again and again</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 02:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you need to catch up, click here to read &#8220;stairs&#8221; part 1: stringer structural stupidity.
A few years back, when I was framing the basement, I had a large load of 2&#215;4s delivered from Smoot Lumber in Springfield. Some of them were warped beyond usability, and I set them aside in my junk pile. My [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you need to catch up, click here to read <a href="http://renovationism.com/2009/04/stairs-part-1-stringer-structural-stupidity/"><em>&#8220;stairs&#8221; part 1: stringer structural stupidity</em></a>.</p>
<p>A few years back, when I was framing the basement, I had a large load of 2&#215;4s delivered from Smoot Lumber in Springfield. Some of them were warped beyond usability, and I set them aside in my junk pile. My estimation of lumber quantity was low, and I had to make several trips to Lowe&#8217;s and/or Home Depot to augment. Spend any time buying lumber at Lowe&#8217;s and/or Home Depot and you&#8217;ll find a lot of twisted wood. I guess it&#8217;s cut and packed while still a bit wet, and once they cut the straps at the store, the pieces dry out and warp.</p>
<p>I was obsessed with finding quality lumber. I&#8217;d dig through the stack of 2&#215;4s, piling the bad pieces in the aisle, looking for the elusive straight pieces, which always seemed to be at the bottom. Once I&#8217;d found enough, I&#8217;d have to re-stack the bad stuff to clear the aisle. I&#8217;d load the truck, take it home, and unload it into the basement. The next day, I&#8217;d find that a bunch of the pieces had dried and warped over night. It was only straight in the store because it was at the bottom of the stack and hadn&#8217;t had a chance to dry out.</p>
<p>Needless to say, my junk pile grew.</p>
<p>You might think all of that experience would have been in the back of my mind while considering 2&#215;12s for the stair stringers. And, you might also think I&#8217;d take seriously the warnings I read about dimensional lumber for stringers. Take, for example, the following picture, from page 34 of <em>Building Stairs</em>, from Taunton&#8217;s <em>For Pros By Pros</em> series, showing where shrinkage can occur. In addition to shrinkage, the &#8220;teeth&#8221; of the stringers can warp to the left or right.</p>
<div id="attachment_626" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-626" title="IMG_0424.JPG" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/stairs_bad_stringer.jpg" alt="What can go wrong" width="400" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">What can go wrong?</p></div>
<p>Did I take all the warnings seriously? Well, if you think so, then you haven&#8217;t been reading closely. <a href="http://renovationism.com/2009/04/stairs-part-1-stringer-structural-stupidity/">Remember</a>?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll cut to the chase. Yeah, both of those things happened. On the bright side, I&#8217;m not moving quickly, (I cut the initial stringers in July of 2006, and replaced them, as detailed below, in April of 2008), so the problems became apparent before I finished the stairs. Also, the emotional attachment I had to the original stringers had mostly evaporated by the time I switched on the reciprocating saw to cut them out.</p>
<p>What, you may be asking, was the solution? Well, <em>Building Stairs</em> didn&#8217;t have that nice little picture just to taunt me. They offered a more stable alternative involving plywood and a lot of glue. The problem is, stringers are usually pretty long, and pretty thick, and plywood comes in 4&#215;8 sheets that are only 3/4&#8243; thick. So, I&#8217;d have to laminate several pieces together to create the board from which I would cut the stringer. In the photo below, the longer pieces are 8&#8242; long, and the shorter are 4&#8242;, giving a 12&#8242; length. And two layers gives it a 1.5&#8243; thickness (which, if you&#8217;re not familiar with dimentional lumber, is actually how thick the 2&#8243; edge of a 2-by is). Overlapping the joints gives strength.<em><br />
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<div id="attachment_627" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-627" title="IMG_0012" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/stairs_plywood_layout.jpg" alt="Jigsaw puzzle" width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Jigsaw puzzle</p></div>
<p>A gallon of Elmer&#8217;s carpenter&#8217;s glue, two dozen clamps, and 24 hours of dry time later, and I had one stringer. Repeat. Repeat again.</p>
<div id="attachment_628" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-628" title="IMG_0002" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/stairs_stringer_glue_up.jpg" alt="A few clamps" width="400" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">A few clamps</p></div>
<p>Once the laminated boards were ready, I trimmed the edges, then marked and cut the stringers. And it is will no small amount of embarrassment that I tell you that, after having measured and cut the original three stringers, I cut <em>all three</em> of the new stringers wrong. It was only off by a half an inch, but, believe it or not, your feet can tell the difference. And so can my pride.</p>
<p>What did I do? Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.</p>
<div id="attachment_629" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-629" title="IMG_0038 copy" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/stairs_new_stringers_in.jpg" alt="Crisp and clean stringers" width="400" height="306" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Crisp and clean (and correctly cut) stringers</p></div>
<p>Version 2 of the rough stairs have risers and treads made of 3/4&#8243; plywood. Unlike stairs v1.0, This is a permanent underlayment to which the finish risers and treads will be attached, adding strength and rigidity to the structure. I also left a rather significant gap on each side for installation of the skirtboard.</p>
<div id="attachment_630" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-630" title="IMG_0039" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/stairs_temp_done.jpg" alt="A new set of temporary stairs." width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Was all that work really worth it?</p></div>
<p>Next on &#8220;stairs&#8221; &#8211; finish anxiety.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;stairs&#8221; part 1: stringer structural stupidity</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many parts of the basement renovation project have induced angst. Only the stairs, however, had the power to produce such constant long-term fretting. As I begin to document that part of the journey, the stair work is done, and I&#8217;m reasonably happy with the result. Reaching that result, though, was&#8230;
First, a look at the original [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many parts of the basement renovation project have induced angst. Only the stairs, however, had the power to produce such constant long-term fretting. As I begin to document that part of the journey, the stair work is done, and I&#8217;m reasonably happy with the result. Reaching that result, though, was&#8230;</p>
<p>First, a look at the original stairs in their natural habitat.</p>
<div id="attachment_517" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-517" title="P2030007" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stairs_pre_demo.jpg" alt="A view from February, 2002" width="400" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">A view from February, 2002</p></div>
<p>My plan was to keep the original strings and refinish them with new treads and risers.</p>
<div id="attachment_518" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-518" title="IMG_0231" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stairs_demo.jpg" alt="The stringers exposed" width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The stringers exposed</p></div>
<p>However, during demolition in 2006, it became clear that the original stringers weren&#8217;t desirable. A previous owner had notched the stringers to create the framing for an under-stair storage space, thus severely compromising their structural integrity. They had shored up the downhill side of the stringer with 2&#215;4s but I was pretty sure they wouldn&#8217;t pass framing inspection if and when I got to that point.</p>
<div id="attachment_519" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-519" title="IMG_0261" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stairs_notched_stringer.jpg" alt="It doesn't take a structural engineer to see..." width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">It doesn&#39;t take a structural engineer to see...</p></div>
<p>So, I bought a couple of 16&#8242; pieces of 2&#215;12 and laid out my own stringers. I ran into two issues. First, the stairs are steep and, therefore, the ratio of rise to run wasn&#8217;t within the limits of county code. Second, with the low ceiling in the basement, the headroom above the bottom step was too low for code. If I had maintained the original stringers, the deviances would have been grandfathered in. However, by replacing them, I had to either meet code, or get a waiver. A couple of visits to the permit office, a few forms filled out, and one visit by the inspector later, and I had my letter of variance.</p>
<div id="attachment_520" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-520" title="IMG_0265" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stairs_stringer_layout.jpg" alt="It took a little head scratching to figure out the layout" width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">It took a little head scratching to figure out the layout</p></div>
<div id="attachment_521" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-521" title="IMG_0269" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stairs_3_stringers.jpg" alt="A little circular saw magic, and then the dry-fit" width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">A little circular saw magic, and then the dry-fit</p></div>
<p>The stringers are strengthened by 2&#215;4s on nailed to either side, and attached at the top with galvanized corner brackets.</p>
<div id="attachment_522" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-522" title="IMG_0291" src="http://renovationism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/stairs_3stringers_in.jpg" alt="Whew. The fit." width="400" height="533" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Whew. The fit.</p></div>
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<p>Next, on &#8220;stairs&#8221; &#8211; the twisted nature of dimensional lumber.</p>
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